With pending recessions throughout the world and economic hardships facing many people, it is with that in mind that I make this post. The most recent edition of Globe Asia, June 2008, is a Special Edition focusing on Indonesia's 150 richest people.
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- Aburizal Bakrie, Bakrie Family, Globe Asia Magazine, Hutomo Mandala Putra, Indonesia, Indonesian Rich List, Sidoarjo, Soeharto, Tommy Soeharto, Wealthy Indonesians
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30 May 2008 2:40 PM
Rima...
I know, I read it!
The Globe Asia Magazine listed his wealth last year at USD 1.05 billion and that placed him at 8th on the "Rich List". This year they have him at USD 9.2 and in 1st place.
Maybe the IHT used a different measure of wealth or factored in "unreported" or "believed" to be assets.
When it is all said and done it is an obscene amount of money in the context of a family that will not pay its debts in the form of compensation to the victims of the Sidoarjo mud extrusion.
Lousy!
I posted that in my comments on your blog :D - 30 May 2008 4:38 PM
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30 May 2008 4:49 PM
Polar the use of obscene here refers to the fact that it is one of his family companies that is responsible for the mud extrusion in Sidoarjo.
The claim that it was a natural disaster has been discounted with the issue of a Presidential Regulation which apportions blame to the company. As I said the legality of a Presidential Regulation used in this way is an argument for another post.
The fact that he has USD 9.2 billion dollars is not obscene in the sense of you reap what you sow. If you work hard and it pays off for you then so be it. I do not begrudge his wealth on that account.
Once again the obscene here is that he is profiting and doing very well but he / his family have not made good on the compensation they are required to pay and are now looking at trying to offload some of the burden to the government.
On principle I find this wrong. If you do not, then I guess we will have to agree to disagree. He / the family agreed to the Presidential Regulation because it would seem to absolve them of legal responsibility and any court action such as a class action for example.
I am not sure that it does because the legal status of the Regulation is questionable.
Hope this clears up my calling of the wealth obscene :D if not, oh well! - 30 May 2008 6:41 PM
- 30 May 2008 9:30 PM
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30 May 2008 10:23 PM
Well, I’m not disputing the obscenity of wealth. Just trying to measure it. Obscenity is a subjective measure…. (you realize Rob, some of my friends in Indonesia would think you to be obscenely wealthy, as they go to bed tonight with empty bellies).
The mud hole….. well welcome to Indonesia. Sure any normal deep drilling operation in a high pressure area would use cased drilling. But then again traffic would stop when the lights turned red. Its hardly fair to single out one man when the entire nation ignores rules and regulations and indulges in corrupt practices.
But what would I know, Im just a polar bear…. -
30 May 2008 10:34 PM
I just read my comment, and feel some clarification is in order:
The poor people of Sidoarjo have my sympathy, but lets be honest, if they stuffed up on something THEY wouldn’t pay a bloody cent in compensation. In fact just like Bakrie they would smile and try to change the subject. It’s a way of life in Indonesia.
The only difference I see, as a pretty stupid Polar Bear, is the wealth aspect.
And once you start on that slippery slope then anyone with more than anyone else is guilty….
To be honest, having worked for him, I think he has done more for Indonesian people than the average Indonesian has done for themselves.
But like I say, I’m just a polar bear who needs to spend more time in Indonesia….. -
31 May 2008 1:38 PM
J and Rima...
I am only bashing Bakrie and Amien because I think it is warranted (others seem to disagree)...
I am more than happy to provide good coverage of those that have done something that warrants it.
I did a little Mega bashing as well this past week because I am not one for rhetoric and promises that have no policy foundation and no costing even in a minimal form...
I will keep watching what and who you bash or promote :D -
31 May 2008 2:13 PM
PB...
I have read both your comments and will have to agree to disagree on some of the points.
I do not think it is unfair to single out Bakrie and his family. I am not singling him out because of his wealth and none of my comments suggest he is guilty of anything because of his wealth!
To the contrary, I am only saying that a man with that amount of wealth and with obligations to pay compensation to the victims of the Sidoarjo mud extrusion and who is avoiding that obligation, needs to be called on that.
The idea that this is the way it is in Indonesia then we should let all corruption and rule breakers slide because that is the way it is here or not single anyone out seems to be an acceptance of the status quo.
If we accept the status quo then we should not expect any changes over the short, medium, or long terms.
I disagree that the cultural change that will break down the culture of corruption and rule breakers requires that the rule breakers get called.
Is my wealth obscene to some? Probably. Yet, some of those people going to bed this evening with empty bellies are victims of the Sidoardjo disaster...
But I guess we will have to agree to disagree on these things. -
31 May 2008 7:18 PM
Rob, I guess we disagree. But I don’t think Bakrai was manning the drilling rig when they made a fateful decision to use low pressure gear. Lets charge those workers with criminal conduct as well.
When I get into a taxi at Jalan Pelatehan I see it has bald tyres, no seatbelts, advanced rust and probably no insurance. If things go wrong the driver will shrug his shoulders and smile. I don’t see why we expect any better from anyone else. I remember stopping on and asking the idiots building the busway bridges why they didnt put lights around the bloody holes in the road. The workers just looked at me, shrugged shoulders to a man and grinned.
Sure call out Bakrai out. But lets call out every other Indonesian who ignores common sense and basic safety precautions. To an individual it doesn’t matter who caused their hardship or pain, billionaire or humble taxi driver. - 1 June 2008 4:50 PM

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