tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post4221388329581182073..comments2024-03-20T16:19:01.468+07:00Comments on The RAB Experience: Sumpah Pocong...Rob Baitonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-10676041561769938272022-05-24T01:32:39.444+07:002022-05-24T01:32:39.444+07:00visit the website luxury replica bags important ... visit the website <a href="https://www.dolabuy.ru/lady-c-157_224_227/best-cheap-lady-luxury-dior-24cm-replica-handbags-outlet-p-4574.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>luxury replica bags</strong></a> important link <a href="https://www.dolabuy.ru/pouch-c-157_158_346/best-louis-vuitton-knockoff-mini-steamer-pouch-black-accessories-m00340-p-3982.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>replica designer bags smeylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18096525201125878998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-37031704756227863892022-04-30T09:35:44.826+07:002022-04-30T09:35:44.826+07:00replica bags reddit replica bags supplier best r...<a href="https://rilaghiwh46939.blogspot.com/2022/04/some-sellers-on-dhgate-will-happily.html" rel="nofollow">replica bags reddit</a> <a href="https://mckeejoo62290.blogspot.com/2022/04/if-you-have-your-eye-on-designer-bag.html" rel="nofollow">replica bags supplier</a> <a href="https://tenaslar32430.blogspot.com/2022/04/a-must-have-bag-for-ladies-who-take.html" rel="nofollow">best replica bags teekneauthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17086594013345675983noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-71482585034224733202011-12-05T04:00:37.667+07:002011-12-05T04:00:37.667+07:00To my mind everybody have to glance at this.To my mind everybody have to glance at this.отели в барселонеhttp://www.vbarcelone.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-75809848972689960762009-09-14T21:42:39.356+07:002009-09-14T21:42:39.356+07:00BBI...
Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comme...BBI...<br /><br />Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comment, again. Comments are always appreciated. I am particularly grateful that you have taken the time to read the post and found the courage to comment in a language which is not your first. And, better still, you do an excellent job!<br /><br />Santet / black magic is not only restricted to Hindu influenced cultures in Indonesia. That Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-71287671191079584552009-09-14T17:27:22.837+07:002009-09-14T17:27:22.837+07:00a very moving comment from B'wangia very moving comment from B'wangilawkonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-4762485146589742382009-09-14T17:09:32.675+07:002009-09-14T17:09:32.675+07:00banyuwangi is my home town.very near with bali the...banyuwangi is my home town.very near with bali therefore our culture and language heavily influented by hindu balinese culture.<br /><br />santet / black magic is still very popular in banyuwangi.especially for native communities, orang Osing.<br /><br />when i was in the village, i use to witnessed the villagers destroy the house of suspected tukang santet and than drive him out of the belajar bahasa inggrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-16716686126311228442009-09-13T17:36:15.265+07:002009-09-13T17:36:15.265+07:00Lawko...
Cannot really say whether the comments a...Lawko...<br /><br />Cannot really say whether the comments are a treat to others as well.<br /><br />Nevertheless, I always respond to comments no matter where they come from.<br /><br />Yes and no on the 50 million farmers and fishermen (and fisherwomen) and the analysis.<br /><br />I am not sure it is as simple as "breaking the monotony".Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-21809584533302648442009-09-13T16:04:49.915+07:002009-09-13T16:04:49.915+07:00I hope others read your comments and they are not ...I hope others read your comments and they are not just a treat to me. <br /><br /><br />Yes kejawen is strong in my estimation too, but so are another million other beliefs - these guys tend to believe in anything! I guess they dont have the tools to discriminate?? I would think among the 50 million or so farmers and fishers in Java, most just keep their head down; and most would not really need lawkonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-60526229328094746692009-09-13T15:12:53.671+07:002009-09-13T15:12:53.671+07:00Lawko...
Perhaps reading what I said again and in...Lawko...<br /><br />Perhaps reading what I said again and in the context of the particular case.<br /><br />I think I premised the relevant part with the fact that judges are human. Human beings have beliefs, even if that belief is to believe in nothing.<br /><br />People still believe in the sumpah pocong. Now, whether you or I think it is a crock is irrelevant. The point I was making was that Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-62531231264034668392009-09-13T13:10:13.084+07:002009-09-13T13:10:13.084+07:00For your (morbid) interest:
trial by ordeal
In c...For your (morbid) interest:<br /><br />trial by ordeal<br /><br />In customary law, a test of guilt or innocence in which the accused undergoes dangerous or painful tests believed to be under supernatural control. Ordeals by fire or water are the most common. Burns suffered while passing through fire (as in Hindu custom) or rejection (i.e., being buoyed up) by a body of water (as in witch trials)lawko\noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-228692297385705772009-09-13T13:05:26.513+07:002009-09-13T13:05:26.513+07:00ok thanks. keep up the good work. Btw I did check ...ok thanks. keep up the good work. Btw I did check the Aust Constit - one mention of god, and in the Preamble as well...<br /><br />....with the blessing of God. But we are not exhorted to actually believelawkonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-9258383960699969002009-09-13T12:30:01.811+07:002009-09-13T12:30:01.811+07:00Lawko...
Would it make any difference if she did?...Lawko...<br /><br />Would it make any difference if she did? Should it?<br /><br />Why not for real?<br /><br />I might answer in more detail later...on the iPod at the moment.<br /><br />Whose panties? ;)Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-71131676228487563122009-09-13T12:12:43.490+07:002009-09-13T12:12:43.490+07:00I wonder if she would be willing to thrust her han...I wonder if she would be willing to thrust her hand into a pot of boiling water to fetch out a stone as well. <br /><br />At least in this case medical experts could be brought and the judges might be able to sleep better.<br /><br />Are you for real in this comment?? I find what you say quite disturbing; a panel of judges all swayed by confessions in a limp sheet?? And are you suggesting that lawkonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-39796513385419224712009-09-13T08:54:52.925+07:002009-09-13T08:54:52.925+07:00Anggara...
I have a copy of the HIR in a box some...Anggara...<br /><br />I have a copy of the HIR in a box somewhere, still unpacking my books, I had 20 or so boxes of books when I moved :D<br /><br />Thanks for sharing. I remember something vaguely about it being similar to the 'sumpah pemutus'.<br /><br />Harry...<br /><br />No, but it is interesting that it is being offered up in the Prita case as proving her innocence. This does not Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-72524391673175297572009-09-12T22:05:14.636+07:002009-09-12T22:05:14.636+07:00Rob,
Good explanation. I just want to emphasize th...Rob,<br />Good explanation. I just want to emphasize that Sumpah Pocong is not part of the Indonesian legal system therefore there's no legal consequences.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949573308782388848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-43800261285869682102009-09-12T20:46:25.273+07:002009-09-12T20:46:25.273+07:00"The sumpah pocong has always been a part of ..."The sumpah pocong has always been a part of the Indonesian cultural landscape" According to HIR, it is can be similar as "sumpah pemutus" but this kind of evidence did not recognize in our criminal procedure codeAnggarahttp://anggara.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-48268457201249079422009-09-12T06:05:33.800+07:002009-09-12T06:05:33.800+07:00Carl...
Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comm...Carl...<br /><br />Thanks for dropping by and leaving a comment. Comments are always appreciated.<br /><br />I am sure that sumpah pocong has always been happening. I just found it interesting that it is now being offered up as "evidence" in court proceedings as an unequivocal measure of one's innocence.Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-75207538759338140282009-09-12T02:32:50.099+07:002009-09-12T02:32:50.099+07:00Black magic is always great fun, but the rituals m...Black magic is always great fun, but the rituals must be taken with a great big grain of salt. Otherwise, enjoy!Carl Parkeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09848939991608402393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-76809250384710041002009-09-11T17:27:29.192+07:002009-09-11T17:27:29.192+07:00Anong...
Just makes me smile :)Anong...<br /><br />Just makes me smile :)Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-80253842739003658242009-09-11T16:58:47.418+07:002009-09-11T16:58:47.418+07:00Lebaran, Anang Siap Maafkan KD
from Detik
Im so...Lebaran, Anang Siap Maafkan KD <br /><br />from Detik<br /><br />Im sorry but this makes me feel ill.anongnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-4883046740129747302009-09-11T16:30:36.984+07:002009-09-11T16:30:36.984+07:00Anong...
Yep, and probably at other times as well...Anong...<br /><br />Yep, and probably at other times as well.Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-32562322554031602562009-09-11T16:25:34.818+07:002009-09-11T16:25:34.818+07:00I expect a few luckily unapprehended persons use t...I expect a few luckily unapprehended persons use the maaf lahir dan batin line to erase a few major discrepancies at Idul fitri too.anongnoreply@blogger.com