tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post3733610605120199902..comments2024-03-20T16:19:01.468+07:00Comments on The RAB Experience: The Pornography Bill Passes the DPRRob Baitonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-35712046991248891832022-07-31T17:01:06.067+07:002022-07-31T17:01:06.067+07:00replica bags manila replica hermes bag g6p77u5r77 ...replica bags manila <a href="https://www.dolabuy.ru/hermes-c-157_281/" rel="nofollow"><strong>replica hermes bag</strong></a> g6p77u5r77 joy replica bags review replica bags and watches <a href="https://www.dolabuy.ru/handbags-c-157/" rel="nofollow"><strong>Get More Info</strong></a> w5u16o8k18 replica bags london browse around this web-site a5w44q7m15 <a href="https://www.dolabuy.ru/" rel="lesoathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16982952529602405242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-44612378133775183422012-02-21T23:37:51.524+07:002012-02-21T23:37:51.524+07:00So, I do not really consider it may have success.So, I do not really consider it may have success.outlet muebles madridhttp://www.muebles.plnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-44666009824507750802008-11-01T10:30:00.000+07:002008-11-01T10:30:00.000+07:00Schmerly...Thanks for the link.I have actually rea...Schmerly...<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link.<BR/><BR/>I have actually read the piece before. It relates specifically to the ITE law and the issues of internet porn.<BR/><BR/>There is some overlap with the current law. It is this overlap that I have been talking about in the posts I have done on the subject to date.<BR/><BR/>The idea that there is overlap suggests that the regulatory framework is Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-72856764029249291752008-11-01T10:23:00.000+07:002008-11-01T10:23:00.000+07:00Rob..I found this take on the porno bill, I though...Rob..<BR/><BR/>I found this take on the porno bill, I thought it was a rather good piece and sums up what a lot of people are worried about.<BR/><BR/>Here’s the link if your interested: http://japanfocus.org/products/details/2717schmerlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822385478308232919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-41827182315934635702008-11-01T09:12:00.000+07:002008-11-01T09:12:00.000+07:00Mia...What happens next is the President signs the...Mia...<BR/><BR/>What happens next is the President signs the bill into law. Even if he doesn't sign it the bill still becomes law after 30 days.<BR/><BR/>The bill had been amended to exclude bikinis so as not to harm "tourism".<BR/><BR/>The truth be told the Chairperson off the DPRD and the Governor can say whatever they want and post it wherever they like, but the reality is that unless they areRob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-55698031398812038062008-11-01T08:52:00.000+07:002008-11-01T08:52:00.000+07:00Statement from DRPD Chairman and Governor of Bali:...Statement from DRPD Chairman and Governor of Bali:<BR/>http://theorangeskies.multiply.com/journal/item/60/PERNYATAAN_RAKYAT_BALI<BR/><BR/>What would happen next? <BR/><BR/>I actually kinda like the idea of Bali being an independent country, however I'm not sure if it is realistic.<BR/><BR/>The Balinese people that I know would go about their smiley ways to do anything but obeying the Porn Bill :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-32835322509527566372008-11-01T05:16:00.000+07:002008-11-01T05:16:00.000+07:00Therry...Thanks :DTherry...<BR/><BR/>Thanks :DRob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-91517887733881296052008-11-01T04:58:00.000+07:002008-11-01T04:58:00.000+07:00Rob, you should laugh because you're the one with ...Rob, you should laugh because you're the one with the brains! :)<BR/><BR/>If only there are more guys who have the same mindset and are as openminded as you are...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-67027167847153533922008-10-31T23:48:00.000+07:002008-10-31T23:48:00.000+07:00TSB...I do not know how you found me, but thanks f...TSB...<BR/><BR/>I do not know how you found me, but thanks for dropping by and leaving a link.Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-64483187756219664232008-10-31T21:55:00.000+07:002008-10-31T21:55:00.000+07:00Jaka...I didn't say that Indonesia would not survi...Jaka...<BR/><BR/>I didn't say that Indonesia would not survive. I am only saying that I am not sure that the "cuek" approach is the way to go on this one.Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-66503871422724763842008-10-31T18:35:00.000+07:002008-10-31T18:35:00.000+07:00Me, maybe not. But the whole Indonesia at least wi...Me, maybe not. But the whole Indonesia at least will not be like Cambodia during Pol Pot era. As long as we may still speak whatever we like without death punishment, it is ok. Just like turning the clock. <BR/><BR/>Some kings of ours were represive too, somehow. And we survived that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-52429914889815689552008-10-31T16:39:00.000+07:002008-10-31T16:39:00.000+07:00Parvita...There could be a few different instituti...Parvita...<BR/><BR/>There could be a few different institutions making some cash on this one.<BR/><BR/>I think in terms of the definition that it is clear, clearly very broad and therefore pornography can be just about anything that gets the juices flowing and the blood pumping.<BR/><BR/>Schmerly...<BR/><BR/>I am not a woman so perhaps it will be better for a Muslim woman to respond to the idea Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-24381070873988816102008-10-31T16:28:00.000+07:002008-10-31T16:28:00.000+07:00Rob said:"Jaka...Nope."It is ok then. We Indonesia...Rob said:<BR/><BR/>"Jaka...<BR/><BR/>Nope."<BR/><BR/>It is ok then. We Indonesian have however endured many madness since colonial times. I think many Indonesian will just apply what they used to do regarding this: <BR/>"cuek". History repeats. Like Gus Dur once said to Suharto: "ora pathekan" (it wont make you die).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-81770370293721376782008-10-31T15:31:00.000+07:002008-10-31T15:31:00.000+07:00Rob..The women in the DPR are probably mostly marr...Rob..<BR/>The women in the DPR are probably mostly married and maybe good Moslems, if they are married they will in all probability be subservient to ‘im in doors, so maybe they voted to keep him happy, or their under the misguided belief it might save the moral decline of Indonesia and/or their spouse and kids. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>parvita.. <BR/><BR/>These porn law’s will be defined and actedschmerlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822385478308232919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-49740354254653021242008-10-31T14:42:00.000+07:002008-10-31T14:42:00.000+07:00I haven't read the bill yet, but then I can see la...I haven't read the bill yet, but then I can see lawyers are the ones taking all the bucks with this new law!<BR/><BR/>I am still unclear of what is defined by porno and what is not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-32299816530255189052008-10-31T14:23:00.000+07:002008-10-31T14:23:00.000+07:00OK folks here it comes :DTree...The PDIP walkout s...OK folks here it comes :D<BR/><BR/>Tree...<BR/><BR/>The PDIP walkout should be viewed as politicking. The walkout sures up its base in places like Bali.<BR/><BR/>Yes, there is a good chance some of the provisions will get a review in the Constitutional Court. I would guess on some kind of discrimination / rights angle.<BR/><BR/>Maybe burqas and kebayas are in the extreme but they are not outside Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-74627090511717403242008-10-31T11:46:00.000+07:002008-10-31T11:46:00.000+07:00Your right therry, the women will take the brunt o...Your right therry, the women will take the brunt of this law, after all the men in the Moslem world consider women (dangerous and need to be controlled) how weird is that! The men in Indonesia need to be educated to respect women for what they are, human beings, not just second class citizens and pieces of meat, it gets my goat when I see the chauvinistic attitude of Indonesian men towards the schmerlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822385478308232919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-76640742564564212252008-10-31T11:11:00.000+07:002008-10-31T11:11:00.000+07:00The Governor of Bali already made a statement oppo...The Governor of Bali already made a statement opposing the Bill, and that it won't be applicable in Bali.<BR/><BR/>I envision flocks of Jakartans visiting Bali on weekends just so they can wear bikinis and tank tops in peace :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-50116103891388339342008-10-31T11:07:00.000+07:002008-10-31T11:07:00.000+07:00As a new visitor, I'd just like to say this is a g...As a new visitor, I'd just like to say this is a great blog...and having just left Indonesia after 14years there I feel very sad that such stupidity continues. I agree that in a democracy you generally get what you voted for, but I question whether this is strictly true in Indonesia where "representing the people" does not seem to be an important agenda item for most candidates. I feel very sorryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-33420700483796982262008-10-31T10:35:00.000+07:002008-10-31T10:35:00.000+07:00No, of course no one dares to arrest the first lad...No, of course no one dares to arrest the first lady while she's out and about wearing her 'payeted' kebaya, but what about a 'rakyat jelata' like me?<BR/><BR/>If a 60 year old grandma and a cow can get raped, chances are, a woman walking out of the house wearing a kebaya will be seen as a walking vagina as well.<BR/><BR/>Paranoid? I don't think so. What constitutes as porn anyway? Care to explainAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-30485363118581731132008-10-31T10:02:00.000+07:002008-10-31T10:02:00.000+07:00Rob..Yes your right the people of Indonesia voted ...Rob..<BR/><BR/>Yes your right the people of Indonesia voted the pres and vice pres in, I even advised my wife and her family (‘caus bule’s know best!) to vote for SBY! So in my own small way I’m partly to blame for this state of affairs! <BR/>I think I’ll head over to Bali and stand in front of the firing squad before the family seek retribution. <BR/><BR/>Treespotter thinks some of us are being schmerlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09822385478308232919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-85033749803765280622008-10-31T05:51:00.000+07:002008-10-31T05:51:00.000+07:00Ah, just read Ace comment, well, whoever Indonesia...Ah, just read Ace comment, well, whoever Indonesian vote, the result will be the same.<BR/><BR/>Voices will be heard, yes to some extend, others, I doubt it.<BR/><BR/>As long as the narrow minded person were in the party, then I doubt it that there'll be any changes.tere616.blogspot.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08338176884725803925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-36976203661477067732008-10-31T05:44:00.000+07:002008-10-31T05:44:00.000+07:00Yup, read it several days ago in Kompas of PDIP st...Yup, read it several days ago in Kompas of PDIP still have an objection of the bill.<BR/><BR/>What should I say, they need to passed the bill for the sake of the election, to win the majority voter.<BR/><BR/>Good bye my evening dress, my kebaya (phew, I love wear my kebaya), my short pants, my tank top, ... :-(tere616.blogspot.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08338176884725803925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-25464652727233106282008-10-31T03:36:00.000+07:002008-10-31T03:36:00.000+07:00i was just writing about the walk out, first time ...i was just writing about the walk out, first time that i incline to be happy with PDI-P politician.<BR/><BR/>There's still a good chance that at least parts of them will be reviewed by the constitutional court, i find it hard to believe that the law could remain intact - much less enforced.<BR/><BR/>while this is a very bad news indeed, frankly, i find the talk of burqah and kebayah to be too Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13453903374418067594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-39369737236140018802008-10-31T02:41:00.000+07:002008-10-31T02:41:00.000+07:00Schmerly...OK, I won't ask you who.What about the ...Schmerly...<BR/><BR/>OK, I won't ask you who.<BR/><BR/>What about the idea that you get what you vote for? After all, Indonesians were the ones who voted this current crop in (arguments aside that the parties choose the candidates and the people choose the parties).<BR/><BR/>The people even voted directly for the Pres and Vice Pres.<BR/><BR/>Such is life!Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.com