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So, it is a good thing I am not selling fish...<BR/><BR/>The "now, now" was tongue in cheek and not intended to offend...point merely being in general name calling evidences a lack of rational argument and not cheap fish!<BR/><BR/>Yes, on the colonial mentality! And I think we agree on this point it bothers me too Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-21382969526433222872008-04-09T19:16:00.000+07:002008-04-09T19:16:00.000+07:00There is also a Bule Jalan Jaksa as in "need a wes...There is also a Bule Jalan Jaksa as in "need a westerner in the team to help you win a pitch? Then go rent a Bule Jalan Jaksa, give him a shower and shave, put him in decent clothes and parade him before the prospective clients."<BR/><BR/>This is no reflection fthe denizens of Jalan Jaksa but on the colonial mentality of the prospective clients.<BR/><BR/>On your outburst about name alling in you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-1615287667172053902008-04-09T16:11:00.000+07:002008-04-09T16:11:00.000+07:00Hey Anita...Thanks for stopping by! I don't know t...Hey Anita...<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by! I don't know that I am lobbying for any particular term but rather pointing out that the word is loaded and some people get rubbed the wrong way when they hear it...<BR/><BR/>I hav also heard terms like bule hitam, bule Arab, bule Depok, and the like...but in this context bule then means foreigner and it has moved even further away from the original Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-67164820943958112532008-04-09T13:34:00.000+07:002008-04-09T13:34:00.000+07:00The author of Bule Gila, Bart, has 2 kids and the ...The author of Bule Gila, Bart, has 2 kids and the eldest daughter called our Singaporean-Indian friend as "Oom (uncle) bule hitam". She was 3 that time. Must heard it from somewhere. So even for 3-year-old, bule is associated with not only albino or white. My ex-staff also did that, saying something like "bule-arab"...<BR/><BR/>So what do you and others prefer to be called rather than bule? Finally Wokenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13959697119637675461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-76251003484943708982008-04-08T23:18:00.000+07:002008-04-08T23:18:00.000+07:00Rob yes you're right, racial based terms can lead ...Rob yes you're right, racial based terms can lead to awful behaviour, this particular issue is one I just don't care about.<BR/><BR/>As for what goes on in IM - if people like to talk about something, then I will do whatever necessary to facilitate this.Patunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281710045534187016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-9125879592210774952008-04-08T23:02:00.000+07:002008-04-08T23:02:00.000+07:00Now, now, there Unspun :)I am happy for him to dro...Now, now, there Unspun :)<BR/><BR/>I am happy for him to drop by in the down times between posting on his own blog(s) and saving the world!<BR/><BR/>Patung...<BR/><BR/>Nah, in Unspun's defence, and not that he needs any defending as he seems to have a pretty good command on that himself, I gotta say for a person that does not care a lot for the bule issue then Indonesia Matters is an interesting Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-14764571942747213382008-04-08T22:51:00.000+07:002008-04-08T22:51:00.000+07:00Let me get this right. Patung can't care less abou...Let me get this right. Patung can't care less about this issue. So that's why he bothered to leave a posting instead of going out there and making the world right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-19638583445402117262008-04-08T22:30:00.000+07:002008-04-08T22:30:00.000+07:00Patung...It is a storm in a tea cup in the sense t...Patung...<BR/><BR/>It is a storm in a tea cup in the sense that the whole debate will continue unabated, albeit with periods of silence every now and then, because of the diametrically opposed views on the subject matter.<BR/><BR/>I agree there are more pressing issues in the big bad world that we live in. <BR/><BR/>Although, I beg to differ on the 'trivial' aspect because wars, genocides, Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-16506113658873268012008-04-08T22:16:00.000+07:002008-04-08T22:16:00.000+07:00Hi Rob, the 'bule' issue, I couldn't care less bas...Hi Rob, the 'bule' issue, I couldn't care less basically, I'm not really bothered about being called a bule, of course it just depends how it's said. War, mass murder, slavery, child sexual abuse, child malnutrition, those are things to get hot and bothered about, or better still do something about. But if people want to talk about trivial things like bule I don't mind at all.Patunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05281710045534187016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-17861180858946762652008-04-08T21:57:00.000+07:002008-04-08T21:57:00.000+07:00Unspun...Bule has entered into the modern Indonesi...Unspun...<BR/><BR/>Bule has entered into the modern Indonesian lexicon in a way that most Indonesians do not see the racial underpinnings of the word.<BR/><BR/>This then leads to the endless and sometimes viscious circle that we see on a number of blogs. <BR/><BR/>My personal opinion is that there are solid arguments for bule being racist. Yet, the truth of the matter is that most Indonesians areRob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-75855833380951833092008-04-08T21:21:00.000+07:002008-04-08T21:21:00.000+07:00The white man comes in many names in these parts: ...The white man comes in many names in these parts: Bule, ang moh, lao wai, farang, gaijin...<BR/><BR/>Like any words there is the paralanguage: what's unsaid wih words but said with intonation, pitch, body language etc.<BR/><BR/>Often when Asians use the word for th white man the paralanguage is neutral. Like an American, say, in the 1920s calling a black man nigger or negro.<BR/><BR/>It's a fact Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com