tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post269965618282997668..comments2024-03-20T16:19:01.468+07:00Comments on The RAB Experience: Revisiting the 2009 Jessup Competition...Rob Baitonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-57745169200804496952009-07-07T11:39:29.373+07:002009-07-07T11:39:29.373+07:00Lawpil...
If we are looking at Article 27 of the ...Lawpil...<br /><br />If we are looking at Article 27 of the UTE Law then it requires no subsequent subsidiary legislation to become effective.<br /><br />The question then becomes in light of the Tangerang decision, this: "does the decision also apply to the whole of the legislation or just those articles that require further implementing regulations to have proper effect?"Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-79043028477819545542009-07-06T21:41:14.873+07:002009-07-06T21:41:14.873+07:00I will keep an eye on the BB overlap thing.
What ...I will keep an eye on the BB overlap thing.<br /><br />What I meant by retro (no need to elaborate if I am grossly wrong) was that the parliament wanted the law enforced before the fine details were implemented. This happens in most countries Im sure where regulations come later (del leg) - but this, I would agrue, is a tad retro - especially if the intention of the law is not "subsumed"lawpilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-27942172323651909652009-07-06T20:50:52.149+07:002009-07-06T20:50:52.149+07:00Lawpil...
It is not about leagues. I am not in or...Lawpil...<br /><br />It is not about leagues. I am not in or out of anyone's league. It is a much more simple scenario of there are things I know and there are things I know not.<br /><br />How does a parliament provide a hint of retrospectivity? I am not sure what you mean (or at least it is not jumping out at me). Where the Indonesian parliament intends something to be retrospective then itRob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-91777121192708682462009-07-06T20:24:59.133+07:002009-07-06T20:24:59.133+07:00Thanks, is all I can say. Nice Nun joke.
I realis...Thanks, is all I can say. Nice Nun joke.<br /><br />I realise you are out of my legal league - I certainly appreciate all your answers - but unfortunately then tend to suggest further questions/observations eg would you say it is true that there is hint of retrospectivity in the parliament's view/intention. And did I not read somewhere that the civil law system is not without such hints - lawpilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-72041252297383602562009-07-06T11:30:18.157+07:002009-07-06T11:30:18.157+07:00Lawcil...
You could have also returned to this is...Lawcil...<br /><br />You could have also returned to this issue in the relevant post :D<br /><br />Would I care to elaborate? Not really! As I want to watch Part 7 of Band of Brothers ;)<br /><br />But here goes.<br /><br />Yes, I was referring to making law from the bench in the common law sense of things. If you are worried about the civil vs. common law issue. <br /><br />Then, I suggest that Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-82431475358331109532009-07-05T22:11:59.508+07:002009-07-05T22:11:59.508+07:00Ive finally got back to Prita...
Would you please...Ive finally got back to Prita...<br /><br />Would you please care to expand a little on the parenthesised below?- its from your blog.<br /><br /> The question of whether Prita has defamed Omni is a different question to the one being discussed here with respect to legal interpretation and "the making of laws from the safety of the bench"<br /><br />Are you suggesting that in this lawcilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-63814283300689250452009-07-04T16:18:56.851+07:002009-07-04T16:18:56.851+07:00Anonymous...
I would much prefer you to adopt a p...Anonymous...<br /><br />I would much prefer you to adopt a pen name so that I can distinguish you from the other anonymous posters who comment here.<br /><br />However, thanks for dropping by and leaving a comment.<br /><br />The presidential and vice-presidential debates are lame because the candidates are lame.<br /><br />I agree that Indonesia has a rich history of debate and can hold her own Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-1121581182745353592009-07-04T09:29:56.878+07:002009-07-04T09:29:56.878+07:00As you Jessups might well agree...
Suhartoism, an...As you Jessups might well agree...<br /><br />Suhartoism, and not our Eastern culture, is the reason why our candidates’ debates were so lame. It is an insult to our intellect to tell us that debate is not part of our culture. Quality shadow puppet performances should convince us all of that. Not only is debate part of our culture, it is an ancient part at that. But as long as the generation of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-18024261948472013792009-07-03T17:42:52.113+07:002009-07-03T17:42:52.113+07:00Law...
Was not suggesting that you were in the co...Law...<br /><br />Was not suggesting that you were in the country "illegally" or that anything was amiss. Rather, I was just saying that in my case and with all my documents in order there was never a problem with the immigration people coming to the office.<br /><br />The immigration folks never ventured to where I lived either.<br /><br />The only time I had issues with immigration Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-64372673960474023282009-07-03T17:30:33.854+07:002009-07-03T17:30:33.854+07:00Thanks for the email address. I will note it well....Thanks for the email address. I will note it well.<br /><br />I think you missed my meanings in the last post - I meant I have a KITAS etc (documents), and by "those guys" I meant the Imigrasi.<br /><br />I have decided to turn on the lights and show them what they wanted - of all things - my passport.lawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-33786670717889302772009-07-03T17:02:53.852+07:002009-07-03T17:02:53.852+07:00Law...
Soft copy?
rob[dot]baiton[at]gmail[dot]co...Law...<br /><br />Soft copy?<br /><br />rob[dot]baiton[at]gmail[dot]com<br /><br />Saves me looking for them elsewhere.<br /><br />Thanks.Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-80875049609827534462009-07-03T16:54:28.616+07:002009-07-03T16:54:28.616+07:00Ok. take yer time.
I have all the documents too,...Ok. take yer time. <br /><br />I have all the documents too, but you know, those guys interpret things a little differentlylawnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-13286158772099040642009-07-03T16:40:41.619+07:002009-07-03T16:40:41.619+07:00Lawlutmonte & Same Guy LLM...
The overlap pie...Lawlutmonte & Same Guy LLM...<br /><br />The overlap piece / comment might be a weekend gig for me. I am a little busy writing and editing other work-related things at the moment (just popping in here to respond to any comments).<br /><br />Nope. Never had the pleasure. I have to say, it was sometimes a struggle but my immigration stuff was always up-to-date and in order. So, there was no Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-6844741500170389042009-07-03T16:36:24.185+07:002009-07-03T16:36:24.185+07:00Oh, and the other thing Im doing right now is avoi...Oh, and the other thing Im doing right now is avoiding the four Immigration officials who are paying their friday visit - sitting in the dark. Ever had the pleasure?same guy LLMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-87828919000723574702009-07-03T16:34:56.393+07:002009-07-03T16:34:56.393+07:00Im with you on the (un)worth of BB. But I do see m...Im with you on the (un)worth of BB. But I do see many people bring the things out of their pocket and within minutes make some cocksure statement or other about Mr X based on either his CV, his facebook account or some email -enviable?<br /><br />I do not have an LLM. So I am not he. <br /><br />At the moment Im looking at my edited version of the Radmacher case for a conflict of laws class on lawloutmonte (full)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-11865911743894875942009-07-03T15:18:30.715+07:002009-07-03T15:18:30.715+07:00Lawcristo...
Just an aside, "It's me&quo...Lawcristo...<br /><br />Just an aside, "It's me" doesn't really help because now I will have to go back through all your comments and try and work this out.<br /><br />I am sure you said at one point in time you were not a lawyer and had not studied law. They fella I am thinking about was a lawyer, has an LLM, and was part way through a doctorate in law.<br /><br />Not that it Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-64960554895728335552009-07-02T21:38:07.952+07:002009-07-02T21:38:07.952+07:00Lawcristo...
Cool bananas!Lawcristo...<br /><br />Cool bananas!Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-21217343289230922612009-07-02T17:16:57.537+07:002009-07-02T17:16:57.537+07:00they seek him there...
yep its me. All is still g...they seek him there...<br /><br />yep its me. All is still going well, thanks a lot to your inputs. Today I got quite a bit of mileage out of the Blackberry story (most students have them) - particularly RIM's rejoinder that Indonesia might want to control smuggling of fake Blackies....lawcristonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-19072805412618681482009-07-02T16:37:48.642+07:002009-07-02T16:37:48.642+07:00They Seek Him Here...
No, it's not an integra...They Seek Him Here...<br /><br />No, it's not an integral part of the civil law system.<br /><br />However, I guess if I had taken the time to elaborate on that particular point, then I would have continued with the idea that there are no pure systems left in the world of law. I do not, for example, think that the common law system is pure common law. <br /><br />I guess that my point would Rob Baitonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05122219639222126602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9136987847943346639.post-5984393812631943632009-07-02T16:14:40.910+07:002009-07-02T16:14:40.910+07:00For those of us that still admit to being one-time...For those of us that still admit to being one-time lawyers the case is really starting to get interesting in terms of the legal precedents that might be established. It is also interesting because the case highlights the dysfunctionality of the legal system as a whole.<br /><br />you wrote this over at the Spruiker's...... is the doctrine of precedent an integral part of the civil law they seek him here..noreply@blogger.com